X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [216.211.128.10] (HELO mail-in02.adhost.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 914088 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 13:41:08 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.211.128.10; envelope-from=joeh@pilgrimtech.com Received: from Pilgrim10 (tide515.microsoft.com [131.107.0.85]) by mail-in02.adhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9E02C60C3 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joeh@pilgrimtech.com) From: "Joe Hull" To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Progress Report Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:40:02 -0800 Message-ID: <00b901c61227$74583480$1108460a@redmond.corp.microsoft.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 Thread-Index: AcYRoFl25gtpxaDfQdaEofY+yHWLOwAhhHgA Congrat's Bob - you're so close! Since you mentioned cranking speed I thought I'd relay a story that you and others can file away for future reference. Richard Martin - who used to be on this list but I haven't heard from for a while - is working with a helicopter company to install a rotary in a new prototype. He had the rotary running and then, for no apparent reason, couldn't get it to start. This went on for a couple of months! Not a couple of days! He tried everything, switched out EM-2's with another builder, traced all the wires for the zillionth time but still no luck. The end of the story (as I understand it) is that a local rotary mechanic went up and looked it over and suggested trying to crank it faster. Sure enough, a new starter did the trick. It just wasn't turning fast enough. File that one away when you have exhausted all the other obvious problems! Joe Hull Cozy Mk-IV #991 (preping for DAR inspection - details, details) Redmond (Seattle), Washington -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bob White Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 6:32 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Progress Report I got to the point today where I could test the starter. Not trying to start it yet, I just wanted to turn the engine over. Cranking with one of my two batteries, I saw a "voltage too low" warning on the EM2. I flipped on the second battery and cranking speed increased and the warning went away. With the warning The EM2 was telling me the voltage was over 10V. I thought that was enough and I don't think the EM2 display showed the voltage to be much higher with the second battery. I cranked it for 15-20 seconds and saw the oil pressure start to come up. I saw a pressure reading of 88 psi at one point, but the sensor hasn't been calibrated. I put 4 quarts of oil in the engine, and pre-filled the oil filter and oil cooler with another quart. Now the oil level on the dipstick is about half way between L and F. It was about 7/8ths before cranking. It looks like I will be trying to actually start the engine tomorrow or Friday. All I can think of that needs to be done is install the exhaust system and test the fuel system for leaks. I haven't powered up the EC2 yet. Hopefully it will work OK. I'm really happy to be at the point where I'm fixing stuff that doesn't work instead of installing new stuff. I was ecstatic to see the prop turn. :) Bob W. -- http://www.bob-white.com N93BD - Rotary Powered BD-4 (Projected engine start - maybe next week) Custom Cables for your rotary installation - http://www.roblinphoto.com/shop/