X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.101] (HELO ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 911312 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:46:40 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.101; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-025-165.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.25.165]) by ms-smtp-02-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id k03Hjo4r003555 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:45:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <001201c6108d$8c0bbb10$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: QB RV-8 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:45:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C61063.A2BC1640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C61063.A2BC1640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, Ken Lets see periodic photos of progress posted to his list {:>). I figure = if you had to take a photo once a week and show the results that might = motivate you {:>) Ed -----=20 From: kenpowell@comcast.net=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 12:22 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: QB RV-8 Yep, looks doable for someone who has built a couple of RV's. My kids = may be grown but work and 'home projects' (plus the restoration of my = '89 Mustang) keep me from getting back to my RV-4 project. I REALLY' = believe that I will make progress this year though, especially since Ed = (Anderson) keeps motivating me. Ken Powell=20 Bryant, Arkansas=20 501-847-4721=20 C150 / RV-4 under construction -------------- Original message --------------=20 From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net>=20 Can you really build a RV-8 Quickbuild in 9 months while still = holding a full time job? When do you sleep!!!! How? (serious question) = How many hours do you think it will take?=20 Hi Ken, At first, this sounds impossible, but on paper, it's quite = reasonable. I've built about 2.5 RV's so far, including a standard kit = RV-8. I spent 1602 hours over 2.5 years building the earlier -8, but = again, that was a standard kit. =20 The new kit is a QB, which is supposed to save 800-1000 hours. If = it saves 800 hours, then I will only need 800 to get the plane flying = (not painted, or with fairings, etc). You can probably knock off = another 100 hours due to the fact that the new kits are so much better = than the older ones. For example, the empennage is all "match hole" = construction now, which means you just cleco it together on the = workbench. All the steel parts are powder coated, which saves me the = time of painting all that stuff. I'll also save considerable time = staring at the plans, and debating options such as where to put the = antenna, ELT, headset jacks, etc. Having "been there, done that" = before, is a huge advantage. Van's also sells a FWF package now, that = has everything you need, including all the pre-made hoses. Not=20 The other advantage(?) is a change in vacation policy with Philips = this year. They now only allow you to carry over a small amount of = saved vacation from one year to the next, rather than the 6 weeks we = used to be able to carry. Since I'm maxed on vacation time, and = accumulate it rapidly, I will need to take 8 weeks of vacation this year = to keep from losing any time. I can easily work on the plane 70 hours = in a vacation week, so that's 560 hours right there. =20 The real time savings is the fact that I have no kids, or social = life, and a wife who doesn't pile up too many honey-do's. =20 As you see, it's possible, but still optimistic. =20 Cheers, Rusty (when will this message arrive, instantly, or 2.5 days later) ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C61063.A2BC1640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok, Ken
 
Lets  see periodic photos of progress = posted to his=20 list {:>).  I figure if you had to take a photo once a week and = show the=20 results that might motivate you {:>)
 
Ed
 
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From:=20 kenpowell@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2006 = 12:22=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: QB = RV-8

Yep, looks doable for someone who has built a couple of = RV's.  My=20 kids may be grown but work and 'home projects' (plus the restoration = of my '89=20 Mustang) keep me from getting back to my RV-4 project.  I REALLY' = believe=20 that I will make progress this year though, especially since Ed = (Anderson)=20 keeps motivating me.

Ken Powell
Bryant, Arkansas
501-847-4721
C150 / = RV-4=20 under construction
 
--------------=20 Original message --------------
From: "Russell Duffy"=20 <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
Can you really build a RV-8 Quickbuild in 9 months while still = holding=20 a full time job?  When do you sleep!!!!  How? (serious=20 question)  How many hours do you think it will take? 
 
Hi=20 Ken,
 
At first,=20 this sounds impossible, but on paper, it's quite = reasonable.  I've=20 built about 2.5 RV's so far, including a standard kit = RV-8.  I=20 spent 1602 hours over 2.5 years building the earlier -8, but again, = that was=20 a standard kit. 
 
The new=20 kit is a QB, which is supposed to save 800-1000 hours.  If = it=20 saves 800 hours, then I will only need 800 to get the plane flying = (not=20 painted, or with fairings, etc).  You can probably knock = off=20 another 100 hours due to the fact that the new kits are so much = better than=20 the older ones.  For example, the empennage is all = "match=20 hole" construction = now, which=20 means you just cleco it together on the workbench.  All the = steel parts=20 are powder coated, which saves me the time of painting all that = stuff. =20 I'll also save considerable time staring at the plans, and debating = options=20 such as where to put the antenna, ELT, headset jacks, = etc.  Having=20 "been there, done that" before, is a huge advantage.  = Van's also=20 sells a FWF package now, that has everything you need, = including all=20 the pre-made hoses.  Not=20
 
The other=20 advantage(?) is a change in vacation policy with Philips this=20 year.  They now only allow you to carry over a small amount of = saved=20 vacation from one year to the next, rather than the 6 weeks we used = to be=20 able to carry.  Since I'm maxed on vacation time, and = accumulate it=20 rapidly, I will need to take 8 weeks of vacation this year to keep = from=20 losing any time.  I can easily work on the plane 70 hours in a = vacation=20 week, so that's 560 hours right there. 
 
The real=20 time savings is the fact that I have no kids, or social life, and a = wife who=20 doesn't pile up too many honey-do's. 
 
As you=20 see, it's possible, but still optimistic. 
 
Cheers,
Rusty=20 (when will this message arrive, instantly, or 2.5 days=20 later)
 
 
 
 
 
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