X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: <13brv3@bellsouth.net> Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.6) with ESMTP id 911091 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:03:17 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.67; envelope-from=13brv3@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm61aec.bellsouth.net ([65.6.194.9]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060103140224.EJNT6179.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm61aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:02:24 -0500 Received: from rd ([65.6.194.9]) by ibm61aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20060103140158.NOWO29167.ibm61aec.bellsouth.net@rd> for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:01:58 -0500 From: "Russell Duffy" <13brv3@bellsouth.net> To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] QB RV-8, not rotary related was Re: Single rotor running- Tracy questions Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 08:01:59 -0600 Message-ID: <000001c6106e$440345f0$6101a8c0@rd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6103B.F96B46F0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2527 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6103B.F96B46F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Can you really build a RV-8 Quickbuild in 9 months while still holding a full time job? When do you sleep!!!! How? (serious question) How many hours do you think it will take?=20 =20 Hi Ken, =20 At first, this sounds impossible, but on paper, it's quite reasonable. = I've built about 2.5 RV's so far, including a standard kit RV-8. I spent = 1602 hours over 2.5 years building the earlier -8, but again, that was a = standard kit. =20 =20 The new kit is a QB, which is supposed to save 800-1000 hours. If it = saves 800 hours, then I will only need 800 to get the plane flying (not = painted, or with fairings, etc). You can probably knock off another 100 hours = due to the fact that the new kits are so much better than the older ones. For example, the empennage is all "match hole" construction now, which means = you just cleco it together on the workbench. All the steel parts are powder coated, which saves me the time of painting all that stuff. I'll also = save considerable time staring at the plans, and debating options such as = where to put the antenna, ELT, headset jacks, etc. Having "been there, done = that" before, is a huge advantage. Van's also sells a FWF package now, that = has everything you need, including all the pre-made hoses. Not only will = this save the time of making the hoses, but it will save the time spent = shopping for these items, forgetting something, ordering the wrong part, etc. = That shopping time wasn't included in the earlier total, but the time saved = will now be available for actual building. =20 =20 The other advantage(?) is a change in vacation policy with Philips this year. They now only allow you to carry over a small amount of saved vacation from one year to the next, rather than the 6 weeks we used to = be able to carry. Since I'm maxed on vacation time, and accumulate it = rapidly, I will need to take 8 weeks of vacation this year to keep from losing = any time. I can easily work on the plane 70 hours in a vacation week, so = that's 560 hours right there. =20 =20 The real time savings is the fact that I have no kids, or social life, = and a wife who doesn't pile up too many honey-do's. =20 =20 As you see, it's possible, but still optimistic. =20 =20 Cheers, Rusty (when will this message arrive, instantly, or 2.5 days later) =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C6103B.F96B46F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Can you really build a RV-8 Quickbuild in 9 months while still = holding a=20 full time job?  When do you sleep!!!!  How? (serious = question) =20 How many hours do you think it will take? 
 
Hi=20 Ken,
 
At first,=20 this sounds impossible, but on paper, it's quite reasonable.  = I've=20 built about 2.5 RV's so far, including a standard kit RV-8.  I = spent=20 1602 hours over 2.5 years building the earlier -8, but again, that was a = standard kit. 
 
The new kit=20 is a QB, which is supposed to save 800-1000 hours.  If it = saves 800=20 hours, then I will only need 800 to get the plane flying (not painted, = or with=20 fairings, etc).  You can probably knock off another 100 hours = due to=20 the fact that the new kits are so much better than the older ones.  = For=20 example, the empennage is all "match hole" construction now, which means you just = cleco it=20 together on the workbench.  All the steel parts are powder coated, = which=20 saves me the time of painting all that stuff.  I'll also save = considerable=20 time staring at the plans, and debating options such as where to = put the=20 antenna, ELT, headset jacks, etc.  Having "been there, done = that"=20 before, is a huge advantage.  Van's also sells a FWF package now, = that=20 has everything you need, including all the pre-made hoses.  = Not only=20 will this save the time of making the hoses, but it will save the time = spent=20 shopping for these items, forgetting something, ordering the wrong part, = etc.  That shopping time wasn't included in the earlier total, but = the time=20 saved will now be available for actual building.  =
 
The other=20 advantage(?) is a change in vacation policy with Philips this = year. =20 They now only allow you to carry over a small amount of saved vacation = from one=20 year to the next, rather than the 6 weeks we used to be able to = carry. =20 Since I'm maxed on vacation time, and accumulate it rapidly, I will need = to take=20 8 weeks of vacation this year to keep from losing any time.  I can = easily=20 work on the plane 70 hours in a vacation week, so that's 560 hours right = there. 
 
The real time=20 savings is the fact that I have no kids, or social life, and a wife who = doesn't=20 pile up too many honey-do's. 
 
As you see,=20 it's possible, but still optimistic. 
 
Cheers,
Rusty (when=20 will this message arrive, instantly, or 2.5 days = later)
 
 
 
 
 
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