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That's right Ed. We have small blisters where some fuel is trapped just in case the fuel drain gets exposed, but all the water, and garbage goes there and than down to the big water separator/filter. I'm still finding bits and pieces of foam and fiberglass while draining fuel samples. If I had screens inside the tank, all that garbage will be still there. I had my transponder correlation and static system check today and failed miserably. The transponder will transmit altitude, but not transp. code. The static had a big leak. Found the leaks, but the transponder has to go to the doctor. Moo money :( Buly I presume you have a drain at the lowest part of your tank for draining any water accumulation?
Ed A
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter selection
Hi Ed, The cars take fuel an inch or so up from the bottom and avoid most of the sediment. I have cut gas open tanks and you'll be surprised what's left inside after few years. At least on my plane the fuel is drained at the tank's lowest point, and I would like to have any sediment or water to come out and be trapped in the filter/water separator, instead of accumulating on the screen inside the tank. I'm nervous about installing high pressure filters in the gas lines, but that's my opinion. Just another 2 connectors that can fail? One day If I'm proven wrong, maybe I'll install one too :) Buly
On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Ed Anderson wrote:
Buly, I'm not that knowledgeable about pumps or filters. But, I notice that on the automobiles there is generally a "coarse" filters on the inlets of the pumps in the fuel tanks and "fine" High Pressure filters after the pumps, but before the injectors.
Obviously, you have experience that indicates problems with that combination - yet, wonder why we see it in the automobile?
Ed A
. Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:24 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter selection
Guys, I don't understand why you are installing filters AFTER the pumps? I sell large SEPAR diesel fuel filters and I always recommend all the filtering to be done before the pumps and out of the tanks. Any water or debris if it's allowed to reach the pumps, will be beaten into smaller particles and may be PUSHED thru the filter, or even will damage the pumps. I personally suffered on my boat by frequent engine stopages in the worst of times, only to discover that the manufacturer have installed a screen on the pick up tube inside of the tank, where can not be seen or cleaned. The same manufacturer had to fix or replace number of engines only because he installed the fuel pumps BEFORE the filter. Any water in the fuel was beaten in to fine emulsion and pushed thru the filter into the injectors. Results were rusted injectors, rusted high pressure pumps and more. Buly
Kelly Troyer wrote:
Ernest, My opinion also !! There is a potential 90 psi surge pressure from healthy EFI pumps........I do not believe any of the cheap glass filters are rated that high !!
I love this list. I had not thought to check the pressure rating. I just assumed that a filter could take the pressure. It's not like 90PSI is difficult to design for. But after Mark suggested it, I went looking. Sho' 'nuff, no rating.
Any of you carbeurated guys want a pretty glass filter for 3/8" hose lines?
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