X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from imf04aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.4) with ESMTP id 890521 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:42:57 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.52; envelope-from=atlasyts@bellsouth.net Received: from ibm57aec.bellsouth.net ([68.213.226.209]) by imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20051220173047.KSNX2230.imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net@ibm57aec.bellsouth.net> for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:30:47 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.103] (really [68.213.226.209]) by ibm57aec.bellsouth.net with ESMTP id <20051220173046.SVHV21130.ibm57aec.bellsouth.net@[192.168.0.103]> for ; Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:30:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <64DE5F14-8EA2-4C75-BB9E-49D1296DE0FC@bellsouth.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Buly Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter selection Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:30:45 -0500 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Hi Ed, The cars take fuel an inch or so up from the bottom and avoid most of the sediment. I have cut gas open tanks and you'll be surprised what's left inside after few years. At least on my plane the fuel is drained at the tank's lowest point, and I would like to have any sediment or water to come out and be trapped in the filter/water separator, instead of accumulating on the screen inside the tank. I'm nervous about installing high pressure filters in the gas lines, but that's my opinion. Just another 2 connectors that can fail? One day If I'm proven wrong, maybe I'll install one too :) Buly On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:10 PM, Ed Anderson wrote: > Buly, I'm not that knowledgeable about pumps or filters. But, I > notice that on the automobiles there is generally a "coarse" > filters on the inlets of the pumps in the fuel tanks and "fine" > High Pressure filters after the pumps, but before the injectors. > > Obviously, you have experience that indicates problems with that > combination - yet, wonder why we see it in the automobile? > > Ed A > > . > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buly" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:24 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter selection > > >> Guys, I don't understand why you are installing filters AFTER the >> pumps? I sell large SEPAR diesel fuel filters and I always >> recommend all the filtering to be done before the pumps and out >> of the tanks. >> Any water or debris if it's allowed to reach the pumps, will be >> beaten into smaller particles and may be PUSHED thru the filter, >> or even will damage the pumps. >> I personally suffered on my boat by frequent engine stopages in >> the worst of times, only to discover that the manufacturer have >> installed a screen on the pick up tube inside of the tank, where >> can not be seen or cleaned. >> The same manufacturer had to fix or replace number of engines only >> because he installed the fuel pumps BEFORE the filter. Any water >> in the fuel was beaten in to fine emulsion and pushed thru the >> filter into the injectors. Results were rusted injectors, rusted >> high pressure pumps and more. >> Buly >> >>> Kelly Troyer wrote: >>> >>>> Ernest, >>>> My opinion also !! There is a potential 90 psi surge >>>> pressure from >>>> healthy EFI pumps........I do not believe any of the cheap glass >>>> filters >>>> are rated that high !! >>> >>> >>> I love this list. I had not thought to check the pressure >>> rating. I just assumed that a filter could take the pressure. >>> It's not like 90PSI is difficult to design for. But after Mark >>> suggested it, I went looking. Sho' 'nuff, no rating. >>> >>> Any of you carbeurated guys want a pretty glass filter for 3/8" >>> hose lines? >>> >>> -- >>> ,|"|"|, | >>> ----===<{{(oQo)}}>===---- Dyke Delta | >>> o| d |o www.ernest.isa-geek.org | >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >> >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/