Return-Path: Received: from [65.54.169.58] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 795960 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:14:25 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.169.58; envelope-from=lors01@msn.com Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 07:13:41 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 4.174.2.222 by BAY3-DAV28.phx.gbl with DAV; Wed, 16 Mar 2005 15:13:40 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [4.174.2.222] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Electric water pump Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:13:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C52A10.CFAD94B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:13:34 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Mar 2005 15:13:41.0088 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC9E2E00:01C52A3A] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C52A10.CFAD94B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Al is right about the average power level in a car being low (I think it = is even lower than 30%) but BMW knows very well that any performance car = that got a reputation for inadequate performance or cooling on the no = speed limit autobaun would ruin their invaluable reputation. They had = to have tested it at high constant power I would guess. Tracy (330i and Z3 driver when Laura lets me borrow them : ) Those interested in the electric water pump have a new friend. BMW has = gone to the electric pump on the new 2006 BMW 330i. This is a 6 cyl, 255 = hp, 3 liter engine and I doubt BMW would have made this step without lot of testing at all temps and hp outputs. The April 2005 issue of = "AUTOMOBILE" has the article on the car - the water pump is just a sidenote - they = claim it saves 2hp and they were very weight conscious on the engine. Looks = like you could mount it anywhere and have a reliable, mass produced, high = output pump. The article mentions it is computer controlled. Herb Sanders I'd hate to less than positive since obviously this thing is never = going to dieJ; but I would deem the above info as irrelavent to our use. = The "average" power level of automotive operation is about 30%, or in = this case about 75 hp. And in a car, the output power level is not = directly coupled to rpm as it is in a plane with a propeller.=20 Also; check the other of a long list "innovative" items on the Beemer. = The majority are "gee, that's neat" but have little need for in = operation of the car, but can sound good for marketing. But when you = check the price you see that they are there to justify the large = expenditure required to be really "in". (No offense to you BMW owners, I = had a 633Csi once myself). Al (Expecting to be banned from the list by the EWP fans any day now). ------=_NextPart_000_00EE_01C52A10.CFAD94B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Al is right about the average power level in a car being low (I = think it is=20 even lower than 30%) but BMW knows very well that any performance car = that got a=20 reputation for inadequate performance or cooling on the no speed limit = autobaun=20 would ruin their invaluable reputation.   They had to have = tested it=20 at high constant power I would guess.
Tracy  (330i and Z3 driver when Laura lets me borrow them : = )

 

Those interested in the electric water pump = have a new=20 friend. BMW has gone

to the electric pump on the new 2006 BMW = 330i. This is=20 a 6 cyl, 255 hp, 3

liter engine and I doubt BMW would have made = this step=20 without lot of

testing at all temps and hp outputs. The = April 2005=20 issue of "AUTOMOBILE"

has the article on the car - the water pump = is just a=20 sidenote - they claim

it saves 2hp and they were very weight = conscious on=20 the engine. Looks like

you could mount it anywhere and have a = reliable, mass=20 produced, high output

pump. The article mentions it is computer=20 controlled.   Herb Sanders

 

I=92d hate to less = than positive=20 since obviously this thing is never going to dieJ; but I would deem = the above=20 info as irrelavent to our use.  The =93average=94 power level of = automotive=20 operation is about 30%, or in this case about 75 hp. And in a car, the = output=20 power level is not directly coupled to rpm as it is in a plane with a=20 propeller.

 

Also; = check the=20 other of a long list =93innovative=94 items on the Beemer.  The = majority are=20 =93gee, that=92s neat=94 but have little need for in operation of the = car, but can=20 sound good for marketing.  But when you check the price you see = that they=20 are there to justify the large expenditure required to be really = =93in=94. (No=20 offense to you BMW owners, I had a 633Csi once = myself).

 

Al = (Expecting to=20 be banned from the list by the EWP fans any day=20 now).

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