Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 22:25:52 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com ([24.93.67.83] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b6) with ESMTP id 2370283 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 Jun 2003 00:38:09 -0400 Received: from nc.rr.com (cpe-024-211-186-067.nc.rr.com [24.211.186.67]) by ms-smtp-02.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h514ZYZh004652 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2003 00:35:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <3ED9807F.9030508@nc.rr.com> X-Original-Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2003 00:26:39 -0400 From: Ernest Christley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Electric water pumps (again) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Al Gietzen wrote: > > > Even if the electric water pump should work, what is the reason to use > one? It would have to be less efficient. You are converting mechanical > energy to electrical energy and then back to mechanical energy? There is > going to be a loss at every conversion. So in the end you will be > sapping more energy from your engine to power the water pump, power that > could be going into your prop. > > > Perry; > > > > What you say is true, but there may be something else to consider. The > engine may not (does not) always require the full amount of flow > provided by the mechanical pump. It provides enough for full time WOT > operation at sea level (presumably). So if one had suitable control for > the electric pump (big IF); then other than takeoff and climb, we might > have a chance to save some power with an electric pump. > > > > Al > > > > > No I think the problem is that the mechanical pump is designed to provide enough flow at idle when the engine is hot. The translates to WAY to much flow at 5000RPM. You're wasting energy on the high end, but the car engine isn't engineered to hover at that speed. It's designed to rev up there only momentarily and then drop back down to around 2500 or so. -- ----Because I can---- http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/ ------------------------