Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #1774
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: oil return location?
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 00:18:14 -0400
To: <flyrotary>
 
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: oil return location?

 Tracy should confirm this but I think you want your oil return to enter the pan above the oil level in the pan. Otherwise you risk oil backing up in the redrive. You also risk pressurizing the drive and possibly blowing a seal. I know in turbo installs this is true and a return line into the pan below oil level is a definite no-no.

 

I’ll let Tracy speak up if he thinks this will be a problem.  I just can’t see it as an issue with the redrive.  It’s still a gravity feed, and there isn’t any pressure.  Turbo return is somewhat different.  As I understand, they always use those large diameter pipes, because the oil gets beaten into a frothy foam by the extreme RPM of the shaft.  I have a stock oil return pipe on the way from Mazda, and it would bolt right on, except that something from the mount will surely be in the way.  I may have to cut the pipe and reconnect it with some hose.  We’ll see.  Who knows, something has to fit eventually :-)

 

BTW Mike, I’ve been thinking about you today since I’m working on my cowl.  Mine is going to be uuuuuuugly.  Van is probably having nightmares now, and doesn’t even know why yet :-)

 

Cheers,

Rusty

 

I have never returned the oil to a point below the oil level so I have no personal experience with that arrangement.  But  ---- there have been around 5 reported cases of oil leaking past redrive oil seals when the oil return was below the oil level in the pan.  Draw your own conclusions.

 

I would not count on the oil being any less "frothy" from a planetary redrive than from a turbo.  The oil chruning through all those gear teeth is likely to be pretty well whipped up.

 

If you are looking for a convienient place to return oil,  drill & tap  a hole (1/4" NPT) in the "foot" of the flywheel end rotor housing on the spark plug side.  It is at the perfect height, close to the return from the drive and away from the hot exhaust.

 

Tracy Crook
tcrook@rotaryaviation.com
www.rotaryaviation.com

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