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This thread just reinforces my dislike of sump tanks, vented or not.
Why complicate life like this? A return line to the tank is not that hard
to do and creates lots of possible problem scenarios.
Tracy
I
am a lot more skeptical about venting a sump tank. If the sump is vented
and for any reason the mains don't gravity feed just right (it can and does
happen - ask me how I know this :-) you can consume the fuel in the sump
faster than it is gravity feeding from the main tank. If the sump is
vented, you will run it dry with lots and lots of fuel in the mains. If
you close the sump vent OTOH the sump level CAN'T go lower and the engine will
"suck" fuel out of the mains to the sump (at least until one main empties and
provides the sump with a "vent path" - you can ask me how I know this bit too
:-). I used to have my sump vent plumbed to the top of the cabin like
Perry, and kept a dowel stuck in it to close it because I didn't want the sump
to be able to empty before the mains. One time I was driving along and
smelled something and my wife looked over her shoulder and there was a
fountain of fuel pouring out of the sump vent that had blown the dowel
out. She crawled into the back seat and stopped the leak with her
fingers while I landed. We drained a couple of gallons of gas out of the
bilges.
Now I have a schrader valve on my sump vent. I
take it off to allow the sump to fill all the way up and then cap it off
again. I know I'll NEVER fly with my sump vented, but like Perry I make
sure the sump is full on preflight and if it isn't, vent it until it's full
(and then cap it off).
Sump must be full and unvented to fly right ...
Jim S.
Perry Mick wrote:
One final thought.....my aluminum sump tank in not
vented. Seems we discussed this at length when I was building this thing,
and since the overflow is pumped into the sump tank, the fuel might just be
pumped right out of the vent. Take care. Paul Conner
Paul, I think
this is your problem. I brought this up on this list once before. I nearly
had the makings of a fatal accident a year ago when I temporarily had my
sump tank unvented. I had been flying for over four years with a vented sump
tank and never had a problem. I flew to Puyallup WA for the airfaire
early in the morning. The plane sat out in the sun all day, with
temperatures rising. When I went out early afternoon to depart, I lifted the
nose, hopped in, started the engine, taxied to active runway. Very
fortunately there were several planes in the pattern and I had to wait for
takeoff. Finally, I took the active, pushed in full throttle - and the
engine died. This had never happened before. I got out and pushed it off the
runway, somewhat stumped. Finally I remembered the rubber cap I had put on
the sump tank vent. I popped it off and heard a "poof" sound, and then the
sound of fuel flowing into the sump tank. My sump tank is mounted low, fed
from the main tank by gravity. Apparently being parked nose down for several
hours out in the sun allowed vapor lock to form in the lines between the
main tank and the sump tank. If those planes had not been in the
pattern, I would have taken off from a relatively short field in a congested
area and the engine would have quit right after takeoff with no place to
land safely.
My sump tank vent is up at the top of the fuselage with
the main tank vents, I never have problems with fuel being pumped out the
vent. I now maintain that the sump tank must be vented - to do anything else
may be fatal. I've brought this up before on this list and more recently on
Canard
Aviators.
Perry
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