Return-Path: Received: from mailout1.pacific.net.au ([61.8.0.84] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c1) with ESMTP id 724688 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:57:00 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=61.8.0.84; envelope-from=peon@pacific.net.au Received: from mailproxy2.pacific.net.au (mailproxy2.pacific.net.au [61.8.0.87]) by mailout1.pacific.net.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with ESMTP id j1B4u8A6007759 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:56:08 +1100 Received: from ar1 (ppp211C.dyn.pacific.net.au [61.8.33.28]) by mailproxy2.pacific.net.au (8.12.3/8.12.3/Debian-7.1) with SMTP id j1B4u5wE000994 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:56:06 +1100 Message-ID: <003c01c50ff5$8af14900$1c21083d@ar1> From: "Leon" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: For Jesse: Mules, Grog and EFI tuners was : Microtech EFI andTuning, was Leon's nose Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:52:51 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01C51051.BDC44880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C51051.BDC44880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yo Jesse, Thanks for the support about the "mule" concept. I've been doing it = this way for 30 years. Works!! =20 Real Men downunder drink VB (Victoria Bitter - even in NSW), or if you = come from Queensland (like George), XXXX (Four X) is the only = lubricant. Fosters drinkers are now only one step removed form the = Chardonnay Socialist Set. Blokes downunder haven't been drinking = Fosters since Barry Hunphries started dressing in drag (as Dame Edna). = Even Les Patterson, our "Cultural Attache" is a spirits man. So yes, = you are a victim of TV hype and deception (pardon the pun!!). As for engine tuners in the USA, I never thought that yanks were = backward about coming forward to tell all and sundry how good they are. = (}:>) Downunder, "modest yank" is a bit of an oxymoron. (ACRE's = comptroller immediately comes to mind!) Then maybe we only get the brash = extroverted types here on holidays ?? (Unlike all the really nice = polite considerate and helpful people who are on the Fly Rotary list!). Cheers, Leon ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jesse farr=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 8:44 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: For Tom Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Microtech EFI = andTuning, was Leon's nose Leon: I couldn't agree with you more. I personally think you need an = old rx to run your aircraft engine around on the street also before = worrying about tuning for flight. Just personal opinion; but, I know = they not only seem to do better but it is a heck of a lot easier to cost = to the curb and walk home.=20 >>> ( the cold amber liquid!! ) <<< you mean foster's ain't ozian for beer ? has my tv lied to me = again/still ? >>> I'm sure that there are a bunch of people in the USA (being the home = of hot-rodding), who are far cleverer than I, and are equally adept at = the "black art" of tuning aftermarket EFI systems. The trick is to find = one in your neck of the woods.=20 <<< actually the trick is to find one who will even admit it and be honest = about it, if there is such; then the rest gets easier. jofarr ----- Original Message ----- From: Leon=20 With new motors, my preferred way of running them in is to stick = them in a "Mule" and just drive around for 600 miles / 1,000 km or so. = It's not just the miles/time. It's the process of multiple heat and = cool cycles which allows everything to "snuggle in". Obviously this = isn't practical for most people. But I do get the best results with = motors that have been carefully bedded-in. They tend to last longer, = and run "sweeter". ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01C51051.BDC44880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yo Jesse,
 
Thanks for the support about the "mule" = concept.  I've been doing it this way for 30 years.  = Works!! =20
 
Real Men downunder drink VB (Victoria = Bitter=20 -  even in NSW),  or if you come from Queensland (like = George), =20 XXXX (Four X) is the only lubricant.  Fosters drinkers are now = only=20 one step removed form the Chardonnay Socialist Set.  Blokes = downunder=20 haven't been drinking Fosters since Barry Hunphries started dressing in = drag (as=20 Dame Edna). Even Les Patterson,  our "Cultural Attache" is a = spirits=20 man.  So yes,  you are = a victim of=20 TV hype and deception (pardon the pun!!).
 
As for engine tuners in the = USA,  I never=20 thought that yanks were backward about coming forward to tell all and = sundry how=20 good they are. (}:>)  Downunder,  "modest yank" is a bit of = an=20 oxymoron. (ACRE's comptroller immediately comes to = mind!) Then=20 maybe we only get the brash extroverted types here on holidays ??  = (Unlike=20 all the really nice polite considerate and helpful people who are = on the=20 Fly Rotary list!).
 
Cheers,
 
Leon
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 jesse = farr=20
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 = 8:44=20 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: For = Tom Re:=20 [FlyRotary] Re: Microtech EFI andTuning, was Leon's nose

Leon: I couldn't agree with you = more.  I=20 personally think you need an old rx to run your aircraft engine around = on the=20 street also before worrying about tuning for flight.  Just = personal=20 opinion; but, I know they not only seem to do better but it is a heck = of a lot=20 easier to cost to the curb and walk home.
>>>
( the cold amber liquid!! = )
<<<
you mean foster's ain't ozian for = beer ? has my=20 tv lied to me again/still ?
>>>
I'm sure that there are a bunch of = people in the=20 USA (being the home of hot-rodding),  who are far cleverer than=20 I, and are equally adept at the "black art" of tuning aftermarket = EFI=20 systems.  The trick is to find one in your neck of the = woods.=20
<<<
actually the trick is to find one who = will even=20 admit it and be honest about it, if there is such; then the rest = gets=20 easier.
 
jofarr
----- Original Message ----- = From: Leon
 
With new motors,  my preferred = way of=20 running them in is to stick them in a "Mule" and just drive around = for 600=20 miles / 1,000 km or so.  It's not just the = miles/time.  It's=20 the process of multiple heat and cool cycles which allows everything = to=20 "snuggle in".  Obviously this isn't practical for most = people. =20 But I do get the best results with motors that have been carefully=20 bedded-in.  They tend to last longer,  and run=20 "sweeter".
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