Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #15148
From: Leon <peon@pacific.net.au>
Subject: For Ken Welter was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotating Assy Stuff
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:09:08 +1100
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Re: [FlyRotary] Rotating Assy Stuff was Re: [FlyRotary] dy
Howdy Ken,
 
Yes,  we have a mandrel for the rotors themselves, and mandrels for the lightened,  as well as stock manual flywheels.  This is used when swapping a manual flywheel for an auto counterweight and a lightened flywheel.
 
Of course,  my Balancier does a wide variety of piston engines as well and he has literally a wall full of different mandrels to hold various flywheels etc from piston engine cars as well as rotaries.
 
So the procedure is to find the lightest rotor,  and then dynamically balance that on the rotor mandrel.  Obviously,  the balancing procedure of removing metal from the rotor lightens it even more.  The second (and 3rd if a 20B) are then dynamically balanced out until they weigh the same as the first rotor.  
 
As you saw from one of the pix I posted,  I had 2 12A rotors that were EXACTLY the same weight.  You will note the ball bearings held with "Blue Tack" to make allowance for the oil.  With the later model shafts,  we normally just put a carefully calibrated brass weight into the rotor lobe hole(s),  and then adjust where necessary with ball bearings and "Blue Tack". 
 
The extra weight is to allow for the mass of oil that has been determined by trial and error over the years.  It does vary a bit from rotor model to rotor model as the internal volume of the earlier rotors are less than the later models due to the thinner wall castings.  Obviously 10A and 12A rotors have smaller internal capacity than any of the 13B rotors.  So it's a bit of a "Black Art".
 
The rotors are then put on the shaft and the whole assy is then spun up and the counterweights are adjusted until the whole assy balances out nicely.  Using the rotors themselves is easier than fiddling with a collar and removable masses like they do on V8s etc.  Has to be done on a piston engine crank,  but using the rotors themselves workds just dandy on rotaries.
 
Cheers,
 
Leon
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Welter
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 4:45 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rotating Assy Stuff was Re: [FlyRotary] dynamic balancing

   Hey Leon
  You talk about mandrels, are the mandrels for balancing the rotors first??
  I assume that you balance the rotors first and then put the on the e-shaft and balance the assembly.
  Ken



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