Return-Path: Received: from imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net ([205.152.59.67] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.5) with ESMTP id 529859 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:14:24 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.152.59.67; envelope-from=ceengland@bellsouth.net Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([209.215.61.137]) by imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.11 201-253-122-130-111-20040605) with ESMTP id <20041112231408.ZIW2400.imf19aec.mail.bellsouth.net@[127.0.0.1]> for ; Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:14:08 -0500 Message-ID: <419543BE.3000104@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 17:14:06 -0600 From: Charlie England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Weight and Balance? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For those who aren't up on RV weights, 934 would be very good for a -4 with a Lyc 320. My previous -4 weighed ~930 (painted) with a barebones panel (no gyros at all) and only paint & cloth covered foam seats for the interior. 220+ mph is better than angle-valve IO-360 speed, and that engine/cs prop on a -4 would likely weigh around 1100 lbs. minimum. Charlie (hate top posting because I've never read a book that had paragraphs in reverse order & it doesn't make any more sense in emails than it does in books) ;-) Tracy Crook wrote: > Hi Tommy, Have not re-weighed the plane but I dropped about 25 pounds > with the new installation. Only 10 of those were due to the lighter > Renesis. The rest were due to engine mount, oil filter, hoses, intake > manifold, etc. It was 934 pounds before paint back in 1994. Time to > weigh it again. > > Total 'shoe box' runner length is about 11 inches now. > > Tracy (Preliminary test results on longer intake runners - Woo Hooo! > More details later) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tommy James > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:30 PM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Weight and Balance? > > Hi T. What is the new empty weight of the Otter? > > What is the length of the new runners? (internal port to shoebox) > > Regards, and very sorry to miss the flyin! > > Tommy<>< > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft > [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tracy Crook > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 9:29 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: best cruise altitude and power > > > > Correct on all counts Rusty. I'm using the airplane as a dyno in > these tests which has very little to do with the way airplanes are > actually used. As I have said in the past, top speed and HP > numbers are good for only one thing - Hangar bragging rights. My > comment about never testing above 6000 applies only to the recent > Renesis testing. > > > > As an example of why it makes no sense to go fast down low, I can > fly 202 mph at 1000 ft (not full throttle) while sweating > profusely in a hot cockpit while burning about 16 GPH. I can go > the same speed at 14000 ft in complete comfort while burning 8.25 > GPH (numbers from earlier 2nd gen 13B engine). > > > > Tracy (installing longer intake runners in shoebox manifold - > Turbo flyers beware : ) >