Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 09:24:54 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <13brv3@mchsi.com> Received: from sccmmhc01.mchsi.com ([204.127.203.183] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b1) with ESMTP id 2083162 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 13:40:11 -0500 Received: from rad ([12.218.74.116]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030322184011.VOYG22382.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@rad> for ; Sat, 22 Mar 2003 18:40:11 +0000 Reply-To: <13brv3@mchsi.com> From: <13brv3@mchsi.com> X-Original-To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Thick or Thin? The debate continues X-Original-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:39:59 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <000001c2f0a2$74e1d2c0$0201a8c0@rad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 So, I see the choice as: Do you want an 'efficient' radiator or an efficient airplane? Tracy Crook ------------------- This probably does sum it up very well. This has to be one of the best discussions that I've seen on the list. On the other hand, if it's so great, why do I still not have a radiator :-)=20 I talked to C&R Racing yesterday, and they offer a number of core thicknesses, but most are single row designs. They have the usual 2 row core that's about 2.5" thick, and also a wider 2 row core that's about = 3.5" thick. What they make for the NASCAR folks is actually 2 of the 2 row = cores welded back to back, for a total thickness of 5.6". These are double = pass units, with oil coolers in the intermediate tank. Now for the bad news, they weigh about 40-45 pounds dry, and cost $1380.=20 After reading all the info, I have to agree that the thickest core would = be the best from a drag standpoint. Unfortunately, it will require a more ideal ducting to make it work properly, and low speed performance will = be degraded, especially if you don't have a nice effective cowl flap arrangement. Realistically, I need to forget about really thick cores, because I will probably not be able to provide a proper duct to make it work. This leaves me with the more common 2.5", or maybe the C&R 3.5" = core. I'll shoot for >1000 cu in of core volume, and try to use it with an oil/water exchanger.=20 Thanks for all the great info! Rusty =20 =20 =20