Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:20:35 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: <13brv3@mchsi.com> Received: from sccmmhc01.mchsi.com ([204.127.203.183] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b1) with ESMTP id 2080090 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 11:33:03 -0500 Received: from rad ([12.218.74.116]) by sccmmhc01.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20030319163303.BUQG22382.sccmmhc01.mchsi.com@rad> for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:33:03 +0000 Reply-To: <13brv3@mchsi.com> From: <13brv3@mchsi.com> X-Original-To: "Flyrotary List" Subject: Re: weird cooling ideas, part 2 X-Original-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 10:32:56 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <000001c2ee35$3547cad0$0201a8c0@rad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Now, unfortunately, OpenOffice will not read the doc file that Rusty = sent, so=20 I do no know how he tested. The air volume would be very important for = the=20 comparison. Rusty, would you mind posting the data you have in rtf = format. --------- Ernest, The test doc info is listed below. Since I couldn't think of a way to = make a fair airflow comparison, I decided to use the water in my pool instead. That may not have been fair either. I wish I had paid more attention in thermo about 20 years ago :-)=20 I might continue to play with the flat rad idea, but I just didn't want = to spend the time doing it now. The goal is to get in the air, then spend = the next few years tinkering. I sold a great RV-8 last year, mostly because there just wasn't anything left to do but fly it. I'm not expecting = that "problem" with the RV-3 :-) Rusty Radiator test doc:=20 6-16-02 Tested Ed=92s radiator, and my first attempt at a flat rad. The test = setup was as follows, hot water was run from the sink faucet, through a garden hose, to a =BD=94 ID tube, through the rad. The rad was submerged in = the pool, about 5 feet from the outlet near the steps. There is a thermocouple in = the =BD=94 ID tube going into the rad, and out of the rad. =20 Ed=92s Rad =20 Overall dimensions- 13.5=94 x 9=94 x 3-5/8=94 =20 Core dimensions- 10.5=94 x 9=94 x 3-5/8=94 Volume of water it will hold- 39 oz. Inlet size- AN16 fitting, or 1=94 ID Held still about 5 ft from the outlet Water temp in- 142 F Water temp out- 104 F Pool water temp- 89 F=20 Moving the rad vigorously for more flow Water temp out- 101 F Test Rad #1 Single layer (1=94 borders, =BD=94 dividers- 4 each @ 20.25=94 long) Dimension- 12=94 X 24=94 Skin thickness- .032=94 Channel width- 1-5/8=94 Channel height- 1/8=94 Volume of water it will hold- 15 oz. Inlet size- =BD=94 hose barb (smaller ID about 3/8=94) Held still about 5 ft from the outlet Water temp in- 139 F Water temp out- 119 F Pool temp- 89 F Moving vigorously for more flow Water temp out- 114 F