Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: flyrotary Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:33:39 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp3.netdoor.com ([208.137.128.157] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP-TLS id 2044848 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 20:22:51 -0500 Received: from netdoor.com (port938.jxn.netdoor.com [208.148.210.38]) by smtp3.netdoor.com (8.12.8/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h261MnR4020173 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:22:49 -0600 (CST) X-Original-Message-ID: <3E66A2E9.8090805@netdoor.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:22:49 -0600 From: Charlie & Tupper England User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Starter solenoid References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.28 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) Peter Cowan wrote: > Re contactors and solonoids (maybe it would be clearer to talk about > only contactors or only solonoids - aren't they the same?) > > Maybe I'm confused but on my Lycoming, the only solonoid for the > starter is the separate contactor near the battery (in addition to > the master switch contactor). This is different from auto starters > where there is a contactor/solonoid right at the starter. > On my mazda installation the builder had a hot line from the > battery to the starter solonoid. I changed it to route from the > master contactor so that it is still hot when the master is on but > dead when master off. > Is someone suggesting 2nd contactor for the starter? > Peter > Unsophisticated explanation: The terms get used interchangably (is that a word?) but technically, a contactor is a 'heavy duty' relay. A solenoid is a device that uses electrical energy to cause a physical movement. Usually linear, but can be a rotary motion. A typical automotive starter 'solenoid' serves both purposes by switching the high current voltage to the motor and in the same motion moving the pinion gear to engage the flywheel gear. Old style Lyc starters get their gear movement from the 'bendix' & the 'solenoid' for it is just a contactor. That's why the starter pinion doesn't retract when a Lyc fails to start. Does this help? Charlie